The Panasonic 8mm Fisheye f/3.5 lens for Micro 4/3 review by Steve Huff
Hey hey hey! Hello to all and I hope you are ALL having a great week! A couple of weeks back I rented the Panasonic 8mm fisheye lens from LensRentals.com for my Olympus OM-D and have to say I LOVED shooting with it for the few days that I had it. Sure, Fisheyes’s are super gimmicky and NOT a lens you will want to use on a daily basis but for those special occasions like the random Zombie Walk it can come in handy! This is a $600 lens that offers one field of view…FISHEYE. Wether it can find a place in your bag is up to you but it is indeed a fun and very creative lens, though usually reserved for rare occasions, like a Zombie Walk 🙂
This guy stayed in Character..even after the shot – Olympus color..yea baby!
Truth be told, with this lens on the Olympus OM-D (I have not yet tried it on a Panasonic Micro 4/3 Body but know it would be fantastic) I was having more fun than the Zombies themselves. When they saw their fisheye image on the LCD they would immediately open up and they all thought it was “Unique”, which is indeed what a fisheye lens is.
I have always been intrigues by this kind of lens because you can pretty much capture everything around you in the frame. It is pretty cool to see what you get when you snap at something. Self portraits are easy as turning the camera towards yourself and snapping. The only issue is that this lens, and most brand name fisheye lenses are on the pricey side for the amount of use it will get.
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The lens is small, solid and with a sturdy feel to the build. It is also full AF.
Fishing for photos…
I have been shooting images for many many years but I have only owned a fisheye lens ONCE in my life, for about 6 months. It was the Nikon 10.5 Fisheye and it was spectacular. I had a blast with that lens and was shooting my friends, family, pets and even landscapes at the time but after a week or so of using it I grew tired of it and it sat on a shelf for 5 months. THIS is the issue with Fisheye lenses. It is rare for them to get used after the initial “Honeymoon Period”. With that said, when you are in a “Fish” mood…it can open up your creative juices.
Click images for larger size to see them how they should be seen. In this photo I used a filter I tweaked to give similar tones as the Leica Monochrom 🙂
What is a FishEye Lens?
For those that do not know what a lens like this is, it is easy to explain. It is an insanely crazy ultra wide lens that distorts more than any other lens made for your camera. You also get VERY wide coverage, as in 180 degree coverage. See the image above of the two individuals? I was inches from their face and still was able to get them both in the frame. If you shoot with this lens and you are keeping a distance from your subject then your images will not have much impact. I feel FishEyes are meant to be used CLOSE and that is how I use them.
While I was walking through the Zombie Walk I would approach the coolest looking crazies and ask them to let me take their shot. I had to warn them that I would be REALLY close to their faces..they all loved it because at events like these people want their photos taken. After hors or working on their costume they really want to show it off, and that they do. Using a fisheye at this event was perfect as it gave me the results I wanted. I had my Leica Monochrom with me but I had to keep mu distance due to the minimum focus distance and the widest lens I had was a 35 🙂
The Panasonic Fish gave me more interesting and FUN results than my Leica Monochrom, no question about it.
Keeping some distance can make for an interesting image but for more impact – get close. This would have been a little better if I stepped up a little bit!
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My Take on the Panasonic 8mm Fisheye f/3.5 for Micro 4/3 compared to the cheaper Rokinon Manual Focus Fish
For those that are un-aware, this lens is NOT new. It has been around for quite a while but I never tried it until recently. I only had it for a few days so I did not get to do any massive tests with it but I just remembered…I do not do those anyway! Nope, I only shoot pictures with the lenses I review. I am not the worlds best photographer but I know how to use a camera and a lens. I know when a lens sucks, when a lens is decent, when a lens is good and when a lens is stellar super fantastic.
There is another fisheye lens available for Micro 4/3 from Rokinon. It is much cheaper as well coming in at coming in at about half the cost
With that said, I did feel the Panasonic version was built better with a more solid feel and I did appreciate the AF which made it hassle free 100%. Still, at $285 vs $609 it is a drastic savings. Both lenses will give you the same effect. Which you would prefer is up to you. If you want a fisheye and don’t think you would use it much, the Rokinon is a solid buy at that price. If you want quality that will stand the test of time, I would recommend the Panasonic. It is a little jewel of a lens. I also think the color is a little better on the Panasonic.
Detail and Sharpness?
The Panasonic Lumix f/3.5 Fisheye is sharp, even wide open. Since I had it for only a few days and really only shot it at this Zombie Walk I shot it mainly wide open or close to it. But sharpness is not an issue with this lens at all. Fisheye lenses are generally sharp if focused correctly. I did get a couple of mis-focused shots where the lens focused on the person behind my Zombie but that would be the fault of ME. Overall this is a sharp lens worthy of any great Micro 4/3 glass comparisons.
Click it for larger with 100% crop.
Cropping the Fish out!
There were a couple of shots I snapped that I knew would look better with cropping some of the distortion out. This was easy to do during the RAW conversion..I just cropped away what I did not want, and when I did this the “fisheye” effect went away and I ended up with a cool couple of shots. So yes, with todays crop of high res cameras cropping is possible with a lens like this.
Is this a “must buy” lens?
NO! It is not. Not many people think it is worth spending $600 on such a limited use and gimmicky lens. Those that do think it is worth it are those who love this effect. Before buying a fisheye for your camera, any camera..any fisheye lens..I would recommend you ask yourself if you would be using it much. Me? I loved it but I also used it to film a 40 minute video my son and I did for Halloween (Not for this website) and it worked out GREAT. For what we used it for it worked out AMAZINGLY well. Period. So if you are someone who wants to be creative by shooting a few fisheye shots here and there as well as shooting some cool video scenes then a lens like this just might be worth it. I say it is not a “Must Buy” lens because not everyone will want a lens like this. Much like the Leica Monochrom B&W camera, this is a specialty use item.
What I can say is that this lens is beautiful in its quality, build and feel. If you want a fish for your Micro 4/3 and you want Auto Focus and superb quality then this is the #1 choice. If you want to pay much less ($285) then the Rokinon rocks as well, but it is Manual Focus and it does not have the Panasonic name behind it.
I do wish this was an f/2.8 lens but maybe not…if it was it would be larger and heavier and being so wide you can shoot with really low shutter speeds and get great results. So no, I take that back. f/3.5 for this type of lens is just about right 🙂
I will end this short review now with more images taken with my Olympus OM-D and Panasonic 8mm f/3.5 Fish Eye Lens. If you want to buy this lens I recommend Amazon or B&H Photo! The Rokinon is also available at Amazon and B&H Photo!
Thanks for Reading my friends!
Steve Huff
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Hi, Steve. I’m new using Olympus camera, and I had a little problem here. I had lens Panasonic Lumix fisheye 8mm. and it didn’t work on my camera (OMD 10 MII) but it works with my friend camera. he using Panasonic gx8. can you help me what’s wrong with my lens?
-Thanks-
regards,
Regina
Hmmm, thats odd. I used that 8mm on many Panasonic and Olympus bodies. Never tried on the 10 MII but did on the M1. I have no idea, as I never heard of this issue. Are you saying it does not mount or get recognized by the camera?
all is fine, but in my camera 8mm not get distort. just like normal lens
It’s possible you had the 2X digital teleconverter function switched on.
No.
LUMIX G 14/F2.5 with the Panasonic Fisheye Conversion Lens GFC1 works fine for me. Much more inexpensive, packable and you still have your a fast normal wide angle.
I have tire-kicked this lens so many times that I should conclude I do really wannit. The price has come down a bit. As you noted, the price is the problem, but what brings me back is the question of lens automation. Auto-focus, aperture control, and in-body corrections are hard to part with, and hard to paste on after the fact; and if you use DxO to defish some of the time, the EXIF data opens doors that make it very easy. You have to decide which is more precious, your time or your money.
It seems to me that if you are going to crop out the distorted parts afterwards anyway, you might as well be using a 12 or 14 mm lens. They will give even better quality and you dont have to be on top of the subject also. Zombies might like that, but mostly people get really nervous when you stand on their face. 😉
So then, what’s the use of this lens really?
Steve, thanks for the review. I’ve been in the m43 camp since the GH2 and now shoot the Olympus EP-L5, Panasonic GH3 and G6. I’ve owned the Rokinon 7.5mm 3.5 for most of that time and bought it because it is optically superior to the Panasonic fisheye. You really should (imo) be extolling the virtues of the Rokinon, Samyang, Bower, etc, as the cost is so remarkably low for what optical excellence you receive and, as you said, for most, it is more of a rarely used or novelty-use lens. I also fly GoPro on my hexacopter, so fisheye is a big part of my image gathering world.
I had the Rokinon fisheye at the same time as this Panasonic, hated the Rokinon. Was much softer, half the time focus was off due to it being manual, even with huge DOF. It had a nice build and feel but performance lacked for me in comparison. The Panasonic beat it in every way from color performance, sharpness, build and it has AF. The other Rokinon lenses I have tested have all had issues in one way or another so I ends dup just avoiding them.
Every reviewer forget that apart from wierd distorted funny looking pictures the fisheye lenses can also be used to produce stunning 360 x 180 panoramas
hi steve…..ever try the olympus 8mm fisheye?? i’m looking to buy one for my omd, and can’t decide between the panasonic and the olympus (the oly is on sale for $699). thought i’d follow your lead. you never steer me wrong!! 🙂
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I’ve being using fisheye lenses for 5 years and own 2 of them the Olympus 8mm and the Panasonic 8mm. I use them for all different types of shots: panning, night time, self portraits, macro, fun, street, wedding… in fact you are only limited by your imagination :-]
i’m looking to buy either the panny or oly 8mm for my OMD. which do you prefer?
Id go Panasonic as it is made for Micro 4/3. The Oly is made for normal 4/3 and you will need an adapter which will make it even larger and slower.
One area the Panasonic 8mm is great for is underwater photography.
The close focus ability on this lens is about 1 in. from the lens, and auto focusing is a must for this use.
Bob B,
Do you have any more shots with this lens?!
I have a really bad memory….but I am thinking….
Here is one more shot.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z5bbHGpuT-I/UJ8PHGc1eQI/AAAAAAAAADs/YfXPiteSucM/s845/Abstract-Pier.jpg
Here is another one:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iSfCC7cUhzE/UJ8S2EVvt1I/AAAAAAAAAEA/cex2e68M1YQ/s845/Eastern-State-Pen.jpg
My wife fell in love with your shots, so now its on the wanted list!
theres no need for af with fisheyes , ever. Even geuss focusing works as good if you dont like using zone focus. ill take the samyang made rokinon.
There is a need for AF if you plan on taking underwater in a housing, where fisheyes shine (no straighr lines to look askew, and a real need for short focal distances).
Fun review. I have the lens..and when you need it to make something exciting when it otherwise might not be…the lens is a must have…The OM-d just made the lens even better, too!
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8434/7728107902_2799e4337f_b.jpg
I have the Samyang (also known as Rokinon, Bower). It’s a really nice little lens and despite not having an electronic coupling, my PEN meters quite well with it. It produces some great images and focusing is a breeze on a lens this wide, just mind your fingers in the frame on the small camera bodies 🙂
http://www.flickr.com/photos/henryjk/sets/72157631595142221/
ps. Great shots Steve
new link (had to re-upload my Flickr photos)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/henryjk/sets/72157631973158893/
One thing I like about fisheyes for group shots is that even though there is the obvious fisheye distortion in the middle, around the edges there is much less of the rectilinear distortion you get with regular wideangles, so people near the edges of the frame look normal rather than super stretched out.
I guessed projections are different (although the 7.5 shouldn’t have the same “8mm on APS-C” stereographic projection)
Panasonic should just cut the price of this lens in half…they would sure sell a lot more of them. There’s nothing special about it that commands a $600.00 price tag. What are they thinking?
One area of photography where fisheye lenses are heavily used is action sports, as it allows for crazy perspectives that aren’t otherwise possible. Not really something most “enthusiasts” do though!
Pretty fine review as always..speaking of fisheye lenses, I don’t know if you have tried it before but the Samyang 8mm fisheye with Om-D produces impressive quality really for only 300$ now I guess.
Nice review Steve. I have the Rokinon 7.5mm MFT fish eye, as you said it’s much cheaper, so I don’t mind it sitting on the shelf a little more than my other lenses. I tend to pull it out for fairs, and crowds. The zone focus works great outdoors I set it on f5.6 adjust the focus a touch before infinity and everything is in focus.
Hello Steve,
Thank you for a fun review. Having fun taking pictures is what its all about, and you seemed to have had a lot of it. When you get in the “zone” during a shoot and feel the rush of taking the pictures you want, the camera you are using has much less importance. I am amazed, for example, at the bw picture of the guy with the beard. This pictures is super sharp (the beard detail is amazing) and you even managed to get a fantastic bokeh. Furthermore, the bw conversion is of great quality.
In the end, its the images that stay and the fun you had.
Steve, waiting for your Sony Nex 6 review. please post it soon, the cameras are out. your thought on it’s low light performance compared to Nex 5n.
Hey steve, could you post a comparison set with this lens and the 14mm (or the wide end of a kit lens) from the same position?
I’d like to get a sense of how much wider this is than than a regular wide-angle.
(Doesn’t need to be high art. 🙂 Just the inside of a room would be fine.)
Hi Steve !
What do you think of this lens for architecture photography ? Too much distortion ? How is lens correction in Lightroom ? Thanks
Cedric
I’m pretty sure a fisheye would be terrible for architectural photography, as you say too much distortion, anyway fisheye’s aren’t made for architectural phtotography, for that kind of photography, a tilt and shift lens, for m4/3 your current choice is the Lensbaby tilt transformer, only downside is that on the other end it only accepts Nikon F mount (However if you have Nikon glass, then lucky you!). You could wait however for the B.I.G 15mm f4.5 Shift lens (There’s no tilt feature, just shift, but that’s better than nothing.). Another choice for architectural photography is a Ultra wide angle lens, so for m4/3’s your best choice would be the Panasonic 7-14mm f4, same price as the 8mm fisheye, but wider and not a fisheye.
So to sum things up: STAY AWAY FROM FISHEYE LENSES, WHEN IT COMES TO ARCHITECTURAL PHOTOGRAPHY!
Adhib, sorry I didn’t reply earlier… and thanks a lot for your answer ! 🙂
I was never sure that fisheyes were making a different kind of image that a lens with the same focal but not fisheye… I mean that the Pana 7-14 at 8mm won’t make the same image the 8mm fisheye would, if I get it ?
Again, thanks a lot for your answer, it’s pretty clear ! Thanks for taking the time to explain and give me your opinion…
Regards,
Cedric
Late reply. This is terribly wrong advice! The full frame fisheye lens is wonderful for architectural photography because it enables capturing a much wider angle of view than a 7mm rectilinear lens, and the results are totally undistorted (rectilinear) and sharp if done properly. As a professional architectural photographer, I use the Rokinon 7.5mm fisheye lens and my clients are very pleased with the photos.
First, use the best aperture — between f/5.6 and f/8. Test the focus to get max DOF including inifinity sharp. I keep both aperture and focus rings taped fixed to the barrel. Set up the camera completely level. Process Raw files in DxO OpticsPro with Viewpoint: Crop set to manual and unconstrained, do NOT keep aspect ratio, Distortion set to fisheye 84, Unsharp Mask Intensity 100, Radius .5, Threshold 0, Edge Offset 300 (important — sharpens edges more), use Viewpoint to correct perspective if needed (if your camera wasn’t perfectly level). Then, in Photoshop crop to desired composition and resize to minimize stretching, then final sharpening.